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A sucker’s game

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From page A4 | December 02, 2013 | 22 Comments

“Jeux de dupes” — a sucker’s game — is what the French foreign minister called President Obama’s initial deal with Iran about slowing its nuclear enrichment. The French signed on to the current deal, but we’re not sure what makes it less of a sucker’s game.

What Iran got — Obama lifting sanctions on oil sales and releasing $20 billion in frozen assets and $7 billion in sanctions relief — was not much. But members of Congress, the Israeli government and the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy estimate the value of the sanctions relief over six months at $20 billion.

President Obama said, “Iran will halt work on its plutonium reactor,” but Iran only said it would not fuel the reactor. It will continue construction.

Obama also said Iran “cannot install or start up new centrifuges.” Big deal. The Iranians already have 10,000 centrifuges.

And now the Iranians are disputing what Obama says is in the document.

President Obama wanted a deal so bad and didn’t want to bomb their facilities that the deal is not worth the paper it is written on.

 

 

Mountain Democrat

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Discussion | 22 comments

  • Phil VeerkampNovember 29, 2013 - 8:34 pm

    James, any comment/thoughts? (video is a little over 11 min.) ~~~ LINK - VIDEO: Alavi Foundation: Know Your Enemy ~~~ " . . . Ergo, Secretary John Kerry is fully apprised of Zarif's gross sanctions violations, money-laundering, criminal activities under Bank Melli. Banking services to the IRGC and the al Quds Corps. In Geneva, the very thing Iran is saying it wasn’t doing is what it's long been doing: funneling vast amounts of money into its nuclear developments. This is the real Javad Zarif: smooth ambassador while sending huge sums to Iran's nuclear proliferation – the exact act that in Geneva he denies exists. Smoothest, most adept diplomat; duplicity on a scale that could cost the lives of millions. Know your enemy! . . . "

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 29, 2013 - 8:49 pm

    LINK - Fear and Loathing in the Kingdom ~~~ "Pundits and policymakers are missing the big worry about the Obama administration's Iranian nuclear deal: its greatest impact is not ensuring that Iran doesn't get the bomb, but that the Saudis will. ~~~ Indeed, the risk of arms race in the Middle East -- on a nuclear hair trigger -- just went up rather dramatically. And it increasingly looks like the coming Sunni-Shiite war will be nuclearized. . . "

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  • James E.November 29, 2013 - 9:12 pm

    Phil, won't it all be sorted out when Congress does its job? A House or Senate committee will reveal the truth of what a bad deal this is -- or will the House just vote again to repeal Obamacare, with the Senate busy with the latest from Senator Cruz. How about Tom, our Representative? Will he reveal the truth about Zarif? All our government watch dogs asleep, and who will stay asleep.

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 30, 2013 - 6:52 am

    James, for better or worse the "sorting out" process will happen independent of Congress, Obama or any Western power. We are moving away from "managing" the ancient Middle East Tribes. The Sunni - Shia war will play out absent our meddling. Israel will either repeat Masada or play out the "Samson Option." Congress, you and I will watch.

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  • James E.November 30, 2013 - 9:58 am

    Phil, you now speak of the strategic Middle East end game. But, the topic was whether the perfidy of Zarif would be revealed. That's a Congress gig.

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  • cookie65December 02, 2013 - 6:17 am

    Can it get any more obvious how unfit for the job obama is? This equates to nothing other than valjar, the hand inside the puppet looking out for her homeland. obama's Neville Chamberlin moment. "He looked at foreign affairs through the wrong end of a municipal drainpipe" -- Winston Churchill quote on Chamberlin. "An empty taxi arrived at 10 Downing Street, and when the door was opened, Atlee got out." -- another quote from Churchill perfectly suited to the leader of the free world.

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  • rodDecember 02, 2013 - 8:50 am

    Pretty clear now this 'deal' comes at a moment when obamba desperately needs a distraction from Obamacare lies. His numbers have plummeted. Iran over the last decade has proven great skill at off-putting the IAEA, what would change their success especially with this new found wealth delivered by John Chamberlain Kerry? Its the perfect storm for Israel and like before with Iraq and Syrian reactors, Israel will take the lead... again while the US delivers more resources under the table. My concern is I wonder what Russia will do when Israel drops the first bunker buster... One part of this intrigue is very clear, every time obamba speaks, I can rely on the opposite being true, the facts speak for themselves. Netanyahu really is the leader of the free world... at the moment.

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  • cookie65December 02, 2013 - 9:56 am

    The incompetent One honored Rosa Parks and the anniversary of her refusal to move to the back of the bus the best way he knows how. He made her immortal by tweeting a picture of himself. Step aside Rosa, obama is here. Her legacy is moving people to the front of the bus. His legacy is returning them to the back of the bus or throwing them under it. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/12/98470-barack-obama-pays-tribute-civil-rights-icon-rosa-parks-picture-barack-obama/

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  • kggDecember 02, 2013 - 10:30 am

    rod wrote: "Pretty clear now this 'deal' comes at a moment when obamba desperately needs a distraction from Obamacare lies. " kgg writes: rod, how naive you must be to imagine that an agreement like this one could take place within just a few months of talks. peace talks are a good thing, rod. peace agreements are even better. peace is the goal here. it is not a plot - just a desire to make the world a lttle safer for all of us.

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  • cookie65December 02, 2013 - 10:45 am

    kgg, ever hear of the Treaty of Versailles? It is the peace agreement Germany used to light their foundry fires.

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  • Dink LaneDecember 02, 2013 - 11:40 am

    Dear Editor: If the Iranians "already have 10,000 centrifuges" WITH SANCTIONS, and now they've come to the table and allowed DAILY inspections, wouldn't that be an improvement?.... or is it like Plouffe said "In 2017 when Pres. Obama leaves office" the [bigoted] officials will join in and get this country back to work? [because they are too busy fighting everything he does now]

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  • cookie65December 02, 2013 - 12:03 pm

    How many race cards are in dink's deck?

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  • Dink LaneDecember 02, 2013 - 12:33 pm

    Cookie -- You're right.... I didn't believe it was about race.... but you proved me wrong.... It is about race... when you guys TOTALLY abandon all common sense ..... fighting for things you never believed before....just to be on the opposite side... I hope you don't get whip-lash...

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  • cookie65December 02, 2013 - 12:06 pm

    A baby is denied a heart transplant. The bureaucratic language used is "he is an undesirable candidate". Not by an insurer but by doctors. If ocommycare remains intact this will become the new normal. http://www.kcra.com/news/health/disabled-baby-denied-heart-transplant/-/11797232/23242224/-/6nsfx0z/-/index.html

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  • R.j. CarterDecember 02, 2013 - 12:10 pm

    Knowing what we do now about this administration and their love of "cover-ups", ya just have to wonder how much Obama's IRANIAN BORN "HANDLER" VALERIE JARRET might have to do with the integrity and truthfulness of those inspections???

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  • cookie65December 02, 2013 - 12:15 pm

    Hey dink, how did the selling ocommycare go with the family at Thanksgiving? The Romans used other methods to purge themselves after gorging but I guess talking about obamacare would be just as effective. They called it a vomitorium, what do you call it, the family room, the den?

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  • Dink LaneDecember 02, 2013 - 12:22 pm

    I see Cookie is still fighting to protect Insurance companies..... You're like Rep. Mike Rogers.... "Too bad for the 48 Million who will get health care... It's regulating Insurance Companies" and we all know Insurance companies will Fight for Cookie...

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  • cookie65December 02, 2013 - 12:46 pm

    Is that before or after the 100 million who will be kicked off their healthcare plan? Hey dink, I don't see anyone tripping over themselves to sign up. How come you always fall back on the same old tired, dried up, worn out, useless leftists talking points? Anything opposing Obama is racism and anything opposing obamacare is fighting for insurance companies. Several people on this very site are convinced ocommycare is a giveaway to the insurance industry. In fact the insurance industry had a major role in writing it according to them. You also have never ever addressed my question about pre-existing condition and why those who license and regulate insurance companies have allowed them to deny people and why you find no such thing as pre-existing conditions in an public sector union healthcare plan. Of those "48 million" (an over inflated number by double) how many don't have insurance because they choose not to? Don't you agree there was probably a better way to insure the 6-10 million who wanted insurance but couldn't get it for one reason or another? What we spent on a dysfunctional website would have covered at least half of them.

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  • Dink LaneDecember 02, 2013 - 1:32 pm

    Cookie: Who got the Cancellation letters? 1.3% (Most with Anthem Blue Cross)..... Why?..... Because (Like EVERY YEAR during open enrollment) new policies are issued (like Car Insurance).... Pres. Obama's Executive Order: Insurance companies MUST send a 2nd letter telling the 1.3% of the population the can GO on the exchange and see if they pay full price .... ONLY people with incomes 400% above the poverty level will see an increase..... Now Cookie..... What does the insurance company press release say now?

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  • cookie65December 02, 2013 - 4:18 pm

    Do you just make crap up as you go along? The media has done backflips for several weeks now over the obama lies. Millions of people have been kicked off their plans. The bummers "executive order"? What the he// does that mean? The estimates from every corner are upwards of 100 million people will be cancelled due to ocommycare between private and group planes. As long as your up there let obama's doctor know how many polyps he has.

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  • PollockerDecember 02, 2013 - 9:43 pm

    ONLY people with incomes 400% above the poverty level will see an increase? Where in the world did you get that information? My 25 year old daughter's insurance would triple under Obamacare, if she were knocked off her private plan. It would cost 10% of her $45K gross income. The cancellation of millions of plans wasn't a surprise: those in the insurance industry and those involved in purchasing plans for businesses knew about this 2 years ago: the old plans don't fit Obamacare's ridiculous standards. That is the only reason they were cancelled.

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  • Dink LaneDecember 02, 2013 - 12:29 pm

    I know... we need another administration with "Pres. Cheney" going to the CIA 10 times to get "Cue-Ball's" testimony accepted.... and then leaking Valery Plame's name..... You're right... Making up "bogus" attacks on Valarie Jarette's name... Is PROOF that common sense will not come back until 2017.... When "that" man is not the president!

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