Wednesday, April 16, 2014

Not believable

OK, so the County Economic Development Committee didn’t “want to clutter the Website with advertising. I didn’t think that was the direction we were going in,” Michael Ranalli told the Mountain Democrat.

Ranalli also said,”But we do want ideas from vendors on how to pay the ongoing cost of maintaining the portal.”

And that is where the whole plan promoted by CEDAC and now approved by the El Dorado County Board of Supervisors went wrong. Government is a service, not a self-supporting enterprise. Before the county supervisors were blindly led into this patch of starthistles they should have requested a plan and not a Web Portal pipe dream.

A plan would have included how much this would cost the county to maintain it, or would have involved the county IT Director/District Attorney to determine how his department would maintain it.

A plan would have more carefully calibrated initial expenses. Our contact in San Jose tells us most corporate Web sites cost $80,000. El Dorado County is not going to have the same requirements as a Silicon Valley corporate Website, let alone that kind of financial resources.

County staff would have researched what other California counties were doing and how much it was costing them to build and maintain. If county staff wants the Website to appear on the first page of listings on a Google search why didn’t they contact Google and ask how much that kind of display prominence costs?

We’ll give CEDAC credit for not proposing to sell ads to pay for it, but some folks in county administration sure thought they were geniuses for paying for it by selling advertising. That, in part, is how they sold the board on it.

Lest the county supervisors seem like Eskimos buying freezers to store their popsicles in, they might want to ask a few more questions. At least, how much are the popsicles going to cost? At most, do the Eskimos really need a Frigidaire freezer?

Perhaps the county supervisors seem to be as confused as Abbott and Costello about who’s on first: They might want to see what the pitch is before worrying about base runners.

In response to a query from a constituent concerned about the county going into competition against him with its Web “portal,” one supervisor’s assistant responded, “We are truly sorry that the recent Mountain Democrat article left you with the impression that the county intended to compete with local business, that is simply not the case. I understand there was some conversation during the presentation about how the ongoing cost could be supported and the idea of selling advertising was mentioned, but only as a random part of the discussion. Not as a directive to do so. The county in no way wants to hurt our local business enterprises, in fact that could not be further from the truth. The purpose of this portal is to let the world know that we have great businesses here, that we have opportunity for companies to relocate here and live in the best environment on the planet for raising kids and living, working and playing, all here!”

By the way, the Mountain Democrat didn’t leave anyone with “an impression.” It was a firm statement and we stand by the July 22 editorial, “Portal or black hole?”

If the purpose is to “let the world know that we have great businesses here,” then give the El Dorado County Chamber of Commerce some more money for its Website, because that is the chamber’s job — promoting local  businesses.

We refer the supervisors and their assistants to page 3 of the county Purchasing Agent’s Request for Proposals already sent out and due back Aug. 21: “C. Web Portal Marketing, to include but not limited to: 1. Advertising the portal to target audience (businesses, tourists, residents, community groups); 2. Generate Advertising Revenue to support the ongoing maintenance of the Web portal; 3. Social Media Links and Strategy; 4. SEO [Search Engine Optimization] Strategy and Analytics; 5. Recruitment of new entities/groups to be linked through the portal.”

If the words “Generate Advertising Revenue” aren’t specific enough, page 2 of the RFP specifies who will be the advertisers or “assets,” i.e., “businesses and restaurants, tourism and recreation opportunities … and real estate services.”

Which brings us to the administration’s spokesman, who told reporter Dawn Hodson, “.. it’s 100 percent our intent not to solicit advertising or compete with El Dorado County businesses. We don’t want to put ourselves in competition with those businesses.”

Unless they rescind this RFP we 100 percent don’t believe that statement.

We do, however, believe the following statement from the same spokesman: “At this point we don’t know what the portal will look like, what the cost will be or how to fund it. That’s what the RFP will tell us.” That confirms our conclusion above that county staff didn’t research this or perform due diligence. It’s the spaghetti theory of staff work: Throw it on the wall and if it sticks, it’s done.

The facts so far are that the county is going to use our tax dollars to compete directly with us and a number of other local businesses.

Mountain Democrat


Discussion | 46 comments

  • MorrisJuly 30, 2013 - 3:19 am

    So much for trying to sleep after switching 12 hours worth of time zone back to Pacific DOH! Time. Is it 4/1??? Unsure where to start with this one. Perhaps with my own eRFP: I will build and deliver a professional, upmarket and engaging website that is fully tested and deployment ready to El Dorado County within 60 days. User training and 45 days of post-implementation support is included within the fixed price of 40,000.00. But here's the deal: As beautiful and functional and client wow factor as my design will be, no one will actually use the thing. Putting your boots in the oven ain't going to make them biscuits folks. And meta tagging or buying your way into Google supremacy won't either. Being relavant, useful, clicked and fully supported with continuously updated content (that's daily or hourly guys not once a dead link outdated news poorly sourced year as currently offered up by the EDC) that people and provider wish to see and sell. I never thought this day would come: The Mountain Democrat and Morris 'agree'. In absence of a forecast for clear to partly raining frogs, TMD is right on the money: Give the money to the chamber. Let the people who know what they are it. It's clear the county does not. The RFP comes after the internal scoping sessions, the user requirements gathering, the creation of the business requirements document...etc, etc...then maybe then the QA test planning, proof concept, JAD sessions, TDD and dress rehearsals with your fully SIGMA qualified, PMP certified and CMM glorified vendor of intelligent choice. Clearly, anyone who thinks advertising will offset any measurable portion of the website expense should not be a part of this initiative. Could the site achieve a self-supporting or revenue positive goal? Possible. But highly unlikely. We're back to talkin bout those frogs again unlikely. So the DA is our IT Department. Wow. Is that conflict even legal? Seriously. This alone is a class-action hacks DREAM cream filled tort. Not to mention placing in jeopardy every conviction where a PD was assigned the defendant. And the State Bar blessed this DAIT thing? Wow. Wow. I can see the TV commercials now 'where you convicted of a crime in El Dorado County between mm/dd/yy? The call 1-888-EDC-GOLD now!" Get a Facebook page. Try that on for a while; check the fit. Then give the job to people who know what they are doing. This is so Hooterville. What next, EDC WebTV RFD?

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  • MorrisJuly 30, 2013 - 5:45 am

    Sign my RFP contract today and we'll throw in a special Supervisors Edition Sock Puppet named 'BOS-e' to help advertising. Constructed entirely of Teflon, BOS-e makes promises it has no intention of keeping, can only form superficial quid pro quo relationships, accepts assumption as fact, is devoid of personal accountability and empathy and, lastly, is always right even when wrong. Just like my ex, an EDC household name in politics who's likeness serves as our model for BOS-e. The EDC Puppet. ('Morning Schmoopi. Yer cute with coffee coming out your nose so early! Now was a long flight from the Jumeriah house and I'm out of Via's. Still love you tho. Just checking for your pulse, it's gotta be in there somewhere)

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  • DB SmithJuly 30, 2013 - 6:54 am

    Morris, have you been smoking crack and taking viagra at the same time? Sounds like you wore Schmoopi out you naughty boy?

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  • MorrisJuly 30, 2013 - 7:22 am

    DB! Where have you been? Honestly, no worthy adversary has come up of note to take your place. Cookie tries - bless its really little heart - but just crumbles in your shadow. Good to have you back dude. As for wore out, prolly will disappoint that Morris is powered by organic Copenhagen and Cheer Wine. Likely harder to quit tho but hey it makes me frisky. That and got to take a shower on THE PLANE. And had a ROOM. Sadly, alone. But I ain't ever goin to the back of the bus again. Flying showers rock.

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  • EvelynJuly 30, 2013 - 9:08 am

    "Dispute over funding ongoing County Web Portal Grows" - HERE: The major issue is how to fund the proposed web portal's ongoing costs. This is a real issue for the BOS as it is normal for every project to have the ongoing cost far exceeding the start-up cost. Assistant Chief Administrative Officer Kim Kerr addressed the point at the July 16 board meeting when Supervisor Ron Mikulaco asked her if the county was going to advertise and have ads popping up. She said that would be the goal, to get some advertising to help pay for the ongoing cost of the portal.

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  • FranJuly 30, 2013 - 9:36 am

    Morris...lololol...a sock puppet...lolol The BOS should stop listening to unqualified...unelected people on "advisory boards" ...these are volunteers--many of whom just like the power behind the things they guess on...sock puppet...lolololol

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  • FranJuly 30, 2013 - 9:39 am

    Phil...Im not sure if Morris is playing nice--but he is very funny...lololol.

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  • FranJuly 30, 2013 - 9:45 am

    The hottest site for making your own "free" website. WIX there is even a 2 min demo. MAKE IT YOURS Check out some of our beautiful templates and create a website you and everyone else will love! Sock puppet--see when I go to the BOS meeting the next time--this is all I will remember--I will be thrown out for giggles...

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  • MorrisJuly 30, 2013 - 10:15 am

    This has all the makings of a good 'ol fashioned El Dorado County Goatscrew written all over it. Advertising business or not, the entire concept seems ill-conceived. The pie for Internet advertising is sliced lean, rates are low and legitimate competition aggressive. Yahoo - yahoo - is starting to look sleazier than a Georgetown Father's Day. What possible crumbs could we scoop up? Or even wish to be associated with. Lets just be done with it and bring back the brothels because sex, credit repair and work from home (brothel based home business) is about what's left of the low hanging fruit. And what is the surest way to turn off visitors to our fair doh!main? Being assaulted by ads. Not to mention that we already have a portal in place; over a handful actually: Yelp. Expedia. Travelocity. Wiki Travel. Priceline. Siri. The Yellow Pages. The GoldPanner. And, ugh, even The Mountain Democrat. But what really slaps us in the face with a wet squirrel here is that the BOS agreed to fund it. What next, voting on special funding initiatives that deliver taxpayer monies towards our own yard work? Are we electing qualified individuals with any real world business experience or just the ones with the biggest hat that show up at a Tea Party BBQ or Agenda 21 book club burning? This is El Dorado County California. Not El Dorado Arkansas. And now to find out that our DA is also the IT Director. Well ain't that just an Uncle Daddy Day. I want to run for the BOS on the Common Sense Ticket. No Conservative. No Liberal. Just 'Does this expense or change or variance make sense, create jobs, protect our quality of life and or deliver a bang for the buck that creates bucks that stay here at home. If not, then the dog stays in the truck. Because this dog of an idea don't hunt.

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  • MorrisJuly 30, 2013 - 10:36 am

    And so on this day began: The Sock Puppet Rebellion of 2013. I nominate Fran, Evelyn and Phil as party delegates to represent The Sock Puppet Party in The Hills and Hands.

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  • FranJuly 30, 2013 - 7:57 pm

    I have a research question to pose to all of you...aside of the the dot com bubble burst and American economic recession of the early 2000...what happen here in El dorado county that would effect funding during 2003 and 2004? Yet see a climb in funding go up 2005...I know a bond was there and is running out. But there was a sharp drop...then climb. The General plan was final in 2004. I went to the BOS meeting today and it was one of the slides. Ms Kerr said the drop was the would be part...It had to be something else as well...and how did we recover so quickly.

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  • FranJuly 30, 2013 - 8:00 pm

    mill in camino However people were laid off way back in 2002...and not returned to work--a smaller group.

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  • MorrisJuly 30, 2013 - 10:17 pm

    Fran, I was still living in Kill Devil Hills way back in Ought 3 so unsure if I can add value here. However Sock Puppet says something seems off on that explanation. Perhaps not; if there was a significant delay in the event effect hitting the budget. Because the era ended before Y2K. Sock Puppet was screamin in 97/98 pimpin dog food to your mailbox. Y2K high dollar days party was over for me in early 99. A blip of 800.00 an hour consultants hit the streets and Porsche Credit repo'd 100 or so rides but all that mess was in corporate towns. Y2K came and everybody made a killing off eBay splits and bought back their cars. Even the dot com bust was something of a non-event. 3 maybe 6 months. Maybe it delayed some Bay Area folks selling their shoebox and buying a new EDC McMansion impact? Then the election that never ended. Then 911. Everybody drove nice for 48 hours then we all went back to being jackasses. 2002 everybody on the planet got a new car. 2002 and 2003 selling off your stock holdings became trendy while we retreated to our new homes from stock sale money got fat and on Atkins diets. 2003 Kill Devil Hills and much of eastern seaboard and islands got spanked by Hurricane Izzy. And Morris didn't evacuate. Stayed home on the island with a few neighbors. Just saying: don't ever do that. 5 miles off the coast at a 1 foot elev. when a house floats over yer tomato plants its SSN written on arm with a sharpie time. And vodka. All in all tho, those years were good years financially for everyone. Diesel was still 99cents a gal. Women's hair was still large and guys oddly started turning into chicks and exfoliating. Wearing dude pumps too. That sad period ended with the Man Cave Act of 2005 and returning of our, um, accessories. I'm thinking the effect of delayed movers from the bay. The bust would have clicked bay real estate down a bit and marketing times up; delaying another transplant in a Volvo to El Dorado Hills. Sock Puppet took off with my car and an argyle named Precious Moment but I think he agrees. He drinks tho.

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  • FranJuly 30, 2013 - 10:28 pm

    lolololol Thank you Morris...lololol...I can sleep better tonight.

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  • FranJuly 30, 2013 - 10:41 pm

    I knew her answer didnt make sense...not for such a drop off...well off to another meeting in the morning...that I dont understand. People keep using numbers that dont make any logical sense to me--it gives me a headache. Never assume -- ass+u+me (both of us lose.) And there are no "what if s" so why bother with them? Empirical Research (data) doesn't mean it is the "truth." And if one uses "flow" charts--they should flow--so that any one can read them--with out markers saying "start here"...Im going to bed...good night...lololol

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  • MorrisJuly 31, 2013 - 6:24 am

    Lol Fran. This situation is worse than it seemed. Flow charts?? Oh Lawsy someone save these souls from their PowerPoints of Massaged Metrics. Because when you can't speak intelligently as a subject matter expert, wow 'em with shapes and fonts changes. Ooooo look: Helvetica Bold! That and the scent of lavender beings acceptance and a compliant audience without pesky questions. 'Its all in Mitzi's PowerPoint!' She the intern with the French manicure and perky blazer. Meanwhile..back at the ranch ..the recycle bin fills up 10 min after adjourned. What an old school vintage trick. Don't buy it. And if anyone sees that Sock Puppet, please advise ASAP but do not attempt to stop him....he may be armed. He's headed eastbound in a black Range Rover at excessive speed. Think he's takin that floozy Precious to Elko in my new ride. Better not be any lint on the leather Puppet or its commercial laundry mat in Rio Linda for you.

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  • EvelynJuly 31, 2013 - 4:58 am

    Fran: re your question yesterday @7:57 pm. I think you are referring to slide #19 HERE. Ms. Kerr's economic history timeline is astonishing. How is it POSSIBLE that the CAO's office confuses the 2008 housing crash with the 2000 dotcom bubble burst? (The Amador County GJ Report included this: [Kerr] is also reported to "not demonstrate that she possessed the proper qualifications and expertise to perform the duties required for that position.")

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  • EvelynJuly 31, 2013 - 5:13 am

    HERE: Increased foreclosure rates in 2006–2007 among U.S. homeowners led to a crisis in August 2008 for the subprime, Alt-A, collateralized debt obligation (CDO), mortgage, credit, hedge fund, and foreign bank markets. In October 2007, the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury called the bursting housing bubble "the most significant risk to our economy.

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  • MorrisJuly 31, 2013 - 6:40 am

    Curious Evelyn...did EDC maintain any positions within CDO vehicles? If yes, then are these investments being blamed in part for the revenue shortfall? Curious because while CDO's and REIT did deliver some amazing returns (until they no longer did) it would have been highly inappropriate for the county to have invested any public funds in such positions. The long story Ill spare but short and sweet it would be similar to investing in a mutual fund that was construction segment heavy while also putting the rest of your cash into Lowes and Home Depot stock. With so much riding on the buildout of EDC - specifically that once beautiful corridor along 50 between CP and Folsom that we ruined - to also have bet the farm on CDO's would have been DUMB.

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  • EvelynJuly 31, 2013 - 5:18 am

    THIS is what former Dist. 1 Supervisor John Knight said he wasn't interested in reading about.

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  • cookie65July 31, 2013 - 6:40 am

    This comes back to the same war being waged against every taxpayer in America. We Are The Government, We Must Spend Money. We Must And Will Tell You What You Need And What Is Best For You. We Allow Your Input So You Will Remember Us At Election Time.

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  • cookie65July 31, 2013 - 6:44 am

    In what universe is the cost determined before the product is even known? Answer; the universe of spending other peoples money.

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  • FranJuly 31, 2013 - 7:10 am

    lololol Morris--I didnt buy it...I did ask if they were trying for Venn diagrams for the background information or if they were just "pretty" bubbles because of a new and shiny program (they were just bubbles to attract the attention of the BOS.) is one of the reasons I keep going to the presentations--the numbers do not make sense.--and Im hoping one day they will. Pretty pictures though...the presenters should have served popcorn to go with the fairy tale.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 31, 2013 - 7:21 am

    Morris, what the hell are you talking about? I remember a "once beautiful corridor" between Placelle and Sacramento.

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  • MorrisJuly 31, 2013 - 10:11 am

    That you were fortunate too see Phil. Alas, I just remember coming over that crest - a ways down from Sam's Towm - in Georgetown Overdrive and headed for Folsom. The Town. And thinking: I've never been somewhere so not flat and surrounded by ocean that was so perfect. Like a bit of Montana that last bit of real California not paved over with ugly boxes that look like all the other ugly boxes between ugly boxes. Thought no one could ever screw the proverbial pooch on that one. And what happens? I don't come back for summer camp until 30 years later (don't try selling boxes of them daggum turtles after age ten and see who digs deep. 'Hey Mister..wanna buy some turtles for yer Momma?' looses its cachet after puberty) just gone for 30 years and some monkeyspank sells out. In my brief time here still haven't managed the courage to go thru El Dorado. Best to remember it for the drive in with the 3 older than water women who ran it and drinking my first beer there in my first camero. And promptly chumming on a cow that kinda a bad deal during intermission.

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  • FranJuly 31, 2013 - 7:29 am

    Evelyn...thanks Evelyn...I knew it couldnt be that answer...I need to stop listening to people--hoping they are just telling the truth. The whole drive home--I thought back to that year...I just couldnt figure out how El Dorado fit in...the numbers reflect El Dorado--not national. We couldnt see any numbers of the slides...they did say they were sorry for that...I have yet to look over notes and slides--the whole thing hurts my brain...I am just an artist...lololol...I only have a "minor" in math...its more of a hobby. If they want 1+1 ---> 11 is all how one looks at it. SAY NO TO THEIR MATH SOCK PUPPETS !!!!!!

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  • FranJuly 31, 2013 - 7:49 am

    Miss do you remain so calm at these meetings? When the nice woman told me the bubbles on the slides were just "EYE" catchers...I was torn between being happy about someone telling the truth...and really disappointed. I told her I would have liked Venn diagrams to show where all the "words" actually described the math and how it all connected...she looked confused--but did smile. I liked her. Even with the TIM formula--numbers would have been mind went to a division problem...and wanted someone to plug in something...

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  • EvelynJuly 31, 2013 - 8:17 am

    Fran: Calm? Just a facade!!!

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  • EvelynJuly 31, 2013 - 8:20 am

    Morris: I don't have the answer to your CDO question. Give Joe Harn a call @(530) 621-5487.

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  • MorrisJuly 31, 2013 - 10:33 am

    Thank you Evelyn. Unsure if Mr. Harn would lunch with The Mouth of The South. Might have Sock Puppet break the ice. It would be an eye opener. I'd also like to follow the 21k in fees I paid before a single spade of dirt flew to start the house construction. And all those hoops requiring jump thru's to ensure I was in compliance yet just next door I got a neighbor with 3 crappy double wides on less than 5 acres on a hardship permit that expired in 1997. Now we got 3 double wides, 4 travel trailers, 2 shed houses, 6 yard cars, 1 trampoline and 32 screaming adult-children rehearsing for the Springer Show. On land that used to belong to my family until my uncle accidentally blew up and Auntie sold out and headed for less combustible men elsewhere.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 31, 2013 - 11:25 am

    Morris, I am posting to you from the land that your adjectives describe as El Dorado county as first viewed by you so many years ago. Yeowstone National Park. National land. OUR LAND. No pooch screwing here. PCome visit. In the meantime accept that private land, subject to Nimby sat-so will CHANGE.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 31, 2013 - 11:29 am

    iPhone not posting friendly.

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  • MorrisJuly 31, 2013 - 6:31 pm

    Phil! Great choice on the getaway. Perhaps you may have had the chance to canvass for Ths Sock Puppet Party in the Hills while living the life? Oh, and yes... Agree on everything. Guess I just thought that even a private party owner would have taken no amount of money for that space. And put it into a conservation easement. The legacy could have been an amazing gift of a time when Sacramento had yet extended itself to South Lake Tahoe. And Elko. So hey Phil..yer like 116 years old right? Cause I need a lifers memory of EDC between 1969 to opening of Foresthill bridge in 74??? 72?? Anyway, do you remember two Indians that lived in a 50's Shasta trailer (with wings) out on a pullout on 49 between the ranger station and that first stoplight Lincoln Way in Auburn. Neither of em had a car or truck. Just the trailer. They'd sit outside it all day and count the 8 cars that passed. My grandfather used to throw 12 packs at em as some sort of offering. It seems to me they were gone about the time the bridge opened. Ring any bells? I'm curious about their life and story. Looked for them every summer when we came out. It was a sad day the year they weren't there.

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  • FranAugust 01, 2013 - 7:48 am

    Evelyn...thank you for the presentation link--although I was hoping to never see it again...I have a fresh cup of coffee and will review it is like looking at the aftermath of a math textbook explosion. I remember looking at the "drop" in funding thinking what would it be like if no one paid fees, taxes, received no state funding...nothing going into the general fund. The scary part was where a CEDAC person told the board after this presentation--that they were just where CEDAC wanted them at this point. Tired and confused? lololol

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  • FranAugust 01, 2013 - 8:06 am

    evelyn...slide # is promoting the idea--that funding will be cut off--so we must race to get it more interested in the huge drop in funding earlier on the slide. Then the rise to recovery as the new general plan is coming on the scene. (SHOPP-

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  • EvelynAugust 29, 2013 - 6:27 am

    NO SOUP FOR YOU AMERICA: HERE - "I grew up at a time in American history where school children were taught that people in the Soviet Union could not grow food without the express permission of the government and we made fun of the Russians. Now the United States is stating that its citizens may not grow food without the express permission of the government."

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  • EvelynAugust 29, 2013 - 6:30 am

    "USDA Shuts Down 4-Year-Old's Garden" - HERE

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  • Fran DuchampAugust 29, 2013 - 8:20 am

    Fresh milk --whats legal?

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  • Fran DuchampAugust 29, 2013 - 8:22 am

    Is That Front Yard Veggie Garden Legal? Zoning laws thwart residential gardeners in some parts of the country, but a few have fought back.

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  • Fran DuchampAugust 29, 2013 - 8:25 am

    Its not who you think...go to some of the meetings around the County...see what "they" are talking about...what do they think is right? oak park hates veggies.

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  • Fran DuchampAugust 29, 2013 - 8:28 am

    Feud over edible plot gives new meaning to 'victory garden' After months of harassment by code enforcement officials, a beleaguered yet determined locavore from Ferguson, Mo., emerges triumphant in the battle to keep his front yard vegetable garden.

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  • Fran DuchampAugust 29, 2013 - 8:32 am

    Moral and ethical standard? from same link just put down...Board Chairman Joe Schroeder, the one member who voted to uphold the citation, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: “The board felt that, technically, he had the law in his favor. But I think that all of us on the board agreed that the garden is an eyesore. It goes against common sense, really, to put a garden in the front yard instead of the back.” Advisory are dangerous...small groups of people that do not step down....people who start deciding for a whole. Read--all over America--and it is here NOW "... It goes against common sense, really, to put a garden in the front yard instead of the back.” <----by who s standards?

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  • Fran DuchampAugust 29, 2013 - 8:44 am

    Is Your Child's Lemonade Stand Against the Law? I brought this up at a meeting for a reason--if I go to a meeting--be careful--I may have come prepared. Many laws have been on the books--we just never thought people would shut down kids--we were wrong.

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  • Fran DuchampAugust 29, 2013 - 8:55 am

    Delaware Tweaks Law Dealing With Kids Playing In Street goggle kids playing in the street...what else have advisory boards come up the name of moral and ethic "health " of a community?

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  • Fran DuchampAugust 29, 2013 - 9:11 am

    Uploaded on Aug 16, 2011 The first film of the famous George Orwell book published in 1949. This is the full version, very rare. Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984) full - BBC 1954.avi Science fiction? Big brother is watching...some feel that science fiction writers may actually be some of humanities sages--wise people. Black and white film. The book sales have recently gone way up.

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