The weekly Daley: It’s a talk-back world

Iâve written a weekly column for the Democrat for 20 years or a little more. I was a staff writer and assistant city editor for a few years in the 1980s. I taught at Chapman University for 20 years, and I have Masterâs Degrees in Russian History, Psychology and Career Counseling.
I taught high school and junior high school for about 10 years. Iâve worked for El Dorado County Department of Human Services for nearly 20 years in Employment Services as a vocational counselor and vocational rehabilitation social worker. For the past year, Iâve been a social worker with Child Protective Services.
One of my favorite jobs was being a reporter/editor for the Mountain Democrat, because I learned so much about so many things.
Can you imagine Walter Cronkite or Edward R. Murrow concluding a news piece by adding the tag that he'd like to hear from everyone with an opinion — on anything? Wouldn't have to be related, although that would be preferable. Wouldn't have to make sense, although, of course that would be ideal.
"Tweet me @... " has become de rigeur for news anchors and broadcasters after every few stories they tell. Frequently, I proofread our articles on-line as well as for the print editions. Most of us do on a fairly regular basis. The threads that often follow a news story on-line are acquiring a life of their own. An article may report on a crime or a social event, fund-raising activity or government meeting.
The first post typically relates to something in the story. Maybe the writer thinks it was a well-written piece or just the opposite. Or maybe there's a fact-check or correction warranted. Or maybe the writer knows someone mentioned in the story and comments about that person, again relative to the story.
The next post takes issue with whatever the first poster said. Maybe the second poster also knows a person in the story but has a very different perspective of that person. So the second poster has to tell the readers that the first poster doesn't know what he or she is talking about.
The next poster explains that God would prefer that everyone involved read their Bible for guidance and then do the right thing. That one will include citations of chapter or verse that will "prove" the point poster No. 3 wants to make and often concludes with a dire warning of judgment consequences if the others don't "get it."
A little farther along in the post-flow, No. 1 will respond to No. 2 clarifying that, in fact, "It's you who don't know what you're talking about." And sometimes, one or the other will reflect, "I've known you since third grade. You were a doofus then, and now you're just lame, Dude. LOL."
"LOL" is required several times in a moderately long thread as is "BTW," while WTF and its less family-friendly kin STFU, not so much. Someone along the way will accurately exclaim that the thread has lost all connection to whatever the original article was about. Whereupon another will add an e-mail or Web address to a source document that is 63 characters long — the address, not the source document. Said source document will unquestionably prove that its recommender definitely knows what he or she is talking about.
About that time, someone will attempt to re-direct the thread back to the original issue. That will last through two or three subsequent posts. God and/or Jesus will generally be roped back in to the fray at this point. Alternately, the Constitution, having so far not been mentioned, will be thrust to the fore. That post likely will include another multi-dozen-character Web reference.
Pseudo-intellectuals are commonly found cheek-by-jowl in the threads with real intellectuals. Happens all the time, and everyone knows the difference. They don't agree, LOL, but they know the difference.
We try to screen out those posts that are just too darn offensive. You may have seen some of them. They can be shockingly nasty — and of course naturally "off subject." That's one of my primary complaints about this "talk-back" culture and "pingback" world. It seems to bring out the worst in some people. Lots of good, interesting, thoughtful "talk-backers" out there, and many of our regulars are just that.
I enjoy reading them. The others make me fear for humankind. LOL.
Chris Daley is a weekly columnist for the Mountain Democrat.
Chris Daley
Chris has written a weekly column for the Democrat for more than 20 years and has Master’s Degrees in Russian History, Psychology and Career Counseling. He has been a staff writer for a number of years and enjoys it because he "learns so much about so many things."
James E.February 16, 2012 - 10:17 am
Not yet ready to comment, because I'm researching the Bible, the Constitution, and State and Federal Regulations for source material.
Ken SteersFebruary 16, 2012 - 10:38 am
I would read the story but can't get past his two pictures...
Ken's BudFebruary 16, 2012 - 4:03 pm
You're no prize package yourself.
LHFebruary 16, 2012 - 2:36 pm
All is quiet on the Mountain Democrat Front as the Post Wars in the Opinion/Letter Section have subsided.
HLFebruary 16, 2012 - 3:05 pm
Repost due to Dyslexia : All is quiet on the Mountain Democrat Front as the Post Wars in the Opinion/Letter Section have subsided.
CatherineFebruary 16, 2012 - 8:51 pm
I was discussing this with God, and she said I'm busted.
ARNOLD LANGEFebruary 17, 2012 - 10:19 am
Chris, in addition to proof reading may I suggest you also do some fact checking. It would go far to improve the Mountain Democrat's reputation. As far as comments go, unfortunately, many think they are blogging but in reality they are in a psuedo chat room.
James E.February 17, 2012 - 10:44 am
A number of political folks have said they talked with God and God told them to run for office. But, they never tell us whether God's voice is male or female (as much as one could tell). Catherine notes above that it's a female voice.
Jack MartinFebruary 19, 2012 - 11:16 am
Interesting and funny article Mr Daley. And some really salient points, especially one of the last ones where you observed that some people are really nasty in these environments. I think that comes from being relatively anonymous. People feel free to be rude when no one knows who they are and they feel insulated from reprisal, or even shame for that matter. But I encourage all to sign their name and speak as if you are face to face. Some of my own comments have been blunt, even harsh, but in the same "conversations" face to face, I am the same guy. My dad taught me that. Agree or disagree with each others' points, try to keep in mind that some day we may all end up meeting face to face.
HLFebruary 19, 2012 - 4:10 pm
Hello Jack Martin, Glad to see you back. I have to disagree with your point that people would not say face to face what they say on the Internet, at least as it pertains to me. ( and yes I do recognize myself in this Opinion piece, LOL, OK I did that for Daley). I would not hesitate to say face to face what I have said on this site, (oh and BTW I have actually posted for two whole days without the use of the L word or the HS words, progress I guess). We could actually test this premise with a meet in Placerville under the Bell Tower, now wouldn't that be interesting. Food for thought.
Ken SteersFebruary 19, 2012 - 11:26 am
I like your dad Jack. As to Ken's Bud, at least I have a dynamic personality. Well James thinks so anyhow...