Wednesday, April 23, 2014
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Washington worries gun owners

Last week a compromise bill in the Senate on gun purchase background checks failed. The proposal would have expanded background checks to gun shows and Internet sales while exempting personal transactions and it would have prevented the creation of a national gun registry.

The vote was 54-46, six votes short of the 60 required to pass the bill. Even Senate Majority Harry Reid voted against it, though that supposedly was a procedural gimmick to allow him to bring the bill back up for another vote. Sounds like more sleazy action by Mr. Squeaky.

The compromise by Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and Pat Toomey, R-Pa., sounded reasonable, but you can’t blame America’s gun owners for being suspicious of any federal action, especially after the United States led the vote in the U.N. General Assembly to pass the Arms Control Treaty.

“The U.N. Arms Trade Treaty that passed in the General Assembly … would require the United States to implement gun-control legislation as required by the treaty, which could supersede the laws our elected officials have already put into place,” Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., said in a statement. “It’s time the Obama administration recognizes it is already a non-starter, and Americans will not stand for internationalists limiting and infringing upon their constitutional rights.”

Democratic Sen. Max Baucus of Montana said he opposed the treaty because it doesn’t “uphold the rights of Americans.”

The three countries who voted against it were Iran, Syria and North Korea. China and Russia abstained. And where do bad countries get their weapons? From these five.

While regulating the sales of heavy military weapons, such as tanks, it also includes small arms and light weapons. At the very least this could make it difficult for Americans to buy Italian shotguns or German pistols. But the real fear is the treaty’s requirement for countries to pass gun control regulations.

The trouble with Congress and the president is they are attacking responsible gun owners while ignoring the problems of the mentally ill and the criminals with illegal guns.

Mountain Democrat

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Discussion | 24 comments

  • Dink LaneApril 23, 2013 - 5:12 pm

    Ever notice the argument for "Protection of the 2nd Amendment" has MORE importance than "Protection of the Constitution"? The Constitution was NOT written to PROTECT guns. The Right to Bear arms was to PROTECT the Constitution -- AN OBLIGATION FOR BEARING ARMS..... Every document WRITTEN, every letter sent between the forefathers called for RESPONSIBILITY first..... I'm sorry I have a lot MORE faith in our Country and it's people (AND THE LAW-ENFORCEMENT community) than these "he's-coming-to-take-my-guns" nuts....... Not a law in 70 years has called for a single gun to be taken away from a RESPONSIBLE gun owner...... These "Glenn Beck--Sean Hannity--Agenda 21--Rupert Murdoch stooges--Gun Nuts" are telling the Terrorist.... "It's OK, you can buy guns without back-ground checks."

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  • DB SmithApril 23, 2013 - 5:21 pm

    It doesn't take a dimwit to know that a terrorist or bad guy is not typically going get a weapon legally or by passing a background check...unless maybe you're a dinkwit.

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  • KrudolphApril 24, 2013 - 2:18 am

    "The trouble with Congress and the president is they are attacking responsible gun owners." While there may be an argument here for bills such as the assault weapons ban, I fail to see why the Toomey-Manchin bill is a good example for this argument. This bill only increased background checks, which should not affect those responsible gun owners. Furthermore, to protect the rights of those who own guns, it makes it illegal for the government to create a registry of guns, to allay the fears of those who think the big bad government guys in black helicopters are coming to take their gun. But of course, you can't blame the average American gun owner for being suspicious of any federal action. However, you can blame Congress. Is it not their job to actually read this Toomey-Manchin bill, so that the congressmen can pass by the irrational fear and suspicion of the average gun owner, and see the bill for what it really is? And in response to DB Smith, shall we just make everything legal then? A typical terrorist won't care if it's illegal for him to own a gun. A typical thief won't care if it's illegal to steal. The argument is to make it a little bit harder for these bad guys to get their hands on guns, as the vast majority get them perfectly legally from gun shows or the internet. Read about the Virginia Tech shooter, who obtained all of his firearms legally from a gun store, despite being a convicted criminal. So nowadays, yeah, those typical terrorists actually DO get their guns perfectly legally. It's perfectly legal for a terrorist to buy a gun right now!

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  • DB SmithApril 24, 2013 - 7:28 am

    Krudolph, It's just as the article says. "They are attacking responsible gun owners while ignoring the problems or the mentally ill and the criminals with illegal guns". It always seems to be the cart before the horse mentality. If they really want to reduce gun violence then they should refocus their efforts and concentrate on the criminal and Bozo's like Holder by enforcing and or enhancing penalties for committing crimes with firearms instead of plea bargaining or letting them out early for being a good boy. Have all the background checks you want, but it will not stop the criminal or terrorist. It's just like amnesty for illegal immigrants. Before securing our borders and enforcing the laws, they want to provide amnesty. Cart before the horse!

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  • kggApril 24, 2013 - 10:04 am

    the un arms control treaty has nothing to do with domestic transfer of guns. it pertains to the transfer of arms between nations. senator inhofe lied.

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  • James E.April 24, 2013 - 10:56 am

    Reading today's comments, so many problems and concerns. So I decided to have pizza for breakfast and I'm not ashamed. Simply, to mitigate all the problems in the world, pizza is the answer.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 24, 2013 - 11:19 am

    James, we must share common DNA. Try lasagna for breakfast.

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  • Ken SteersApril 24, 2013 - 3:22 pm

    I find cold pizza is just as good as warm. Can't say the same about cold lasagna lasagna. Why are we discussing the UN or Washington when Sacramento has stricter gun laws than either of them?

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  • 1036-FrankApril 24, 2013 - 3:27 pm

    Just like immigration, lack of enforcement of the laws creates major problems and with guns it has to do with felons not being arrested/prosecuted for trying to buy them by the federal DOJ, the numbers from the Bummer are very few prosecutions for those already outlawed from owning guns and trying to buy them from a dealer. This bill that was defeated had the usual addition of many amendments that were rejected by the law abiding citizens, it wasn't just a bill about background checks which most support. The bill was voted down by the senate Dems worried about re-election which infuriated the Bummer.

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  • cookie65April 24, 2013 - 4:26 pm

    James, if you are out of cold pizza, bass fishing is also great for mitigating all the worlds problems. There is nothing like seeing an old lunker bucket mouth dart out of the toolies and try and tear the pole out of your hands. I feel sorry for anyone who has never experienced it. And for anyone who is too busy. HINT HINT.....(that last part is for an old friend who never comments on here)

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  • Dink LaneApril 25, 2013 - 1:01 pm

    To all FACT-Deniers and Conspiracy theorists:.... FACT #1--94% of the people polled want BACKGROUND CHECKS..... 85% in NH...maybe that's why NH Rep. Kelly Ayotte's approval DROPPED 15 points AFTER her vote against it ..... FACT #2--The UN has NO jurisdiction over the USA! Never did....Never will (The UN is NOT "part of" or "in" the Constitution--Duh!)....... I know FACT-Deniers and Conspiracy theorists will always be around. They REFUSE to use their critical thinking skills.... They Let Glenn Beck (Agenda 21), Drudge Report (Obama liked to al Qaeda), or FOX (All Muslims are BAD) do their thinking for them...... You can tell by the "Canned-Rhetoric" I see in this piece and some of these comments ..... Conspiracy theorists will NEVER let Facts get in the way.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 25, 2013 - 1:19 pm

    why do people keep using the term "agenda 21" It is a document of the United Nations called "The 21st Century Agenda" and it is a plan for the 21st century sustainability of the planet. It is a document. It exists. People need to read. Plans for different communities--cities--states--countries...are just plans. The real "meat" of the document is "how" development should develop. Pick any place in the world...add words such as "sustainability", "New Economy", "next Economy" or groups economic development groups, community advisory boards, socialism...or be brave and mix up the words. " This new brand of socialism currently operates in the realm of culture and economics, rather than government—for now." http://www.wired.com/culture/culturereviews/magazine/17-06/nep_newsocialism?currentPage=all

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 25, 2013 - 1:50 pm

    U.N. Agenda 21 measure passes Oklahoma House of Representatives Published: March 14, 2013 http://newsok.com/u.n.-agenda-21-measure-passes-oklahoma-house-of-representatives/article/3765515.

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  • EvelynApril 25, 2013 - 6:43 pm

    "Williams-Sonoma Pulls Pressure Cookers Off Shelves 'Out of Respect'" - HERE

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  • rodApril 25, 2013 - 8:34 pm

    DINK You're not LISTENING. The Toomey/Manchin Bill was reasonable UNTIL they added the amendaments .... an ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN AND MAGAZINE RESTRICTIONS... GET IT? Dems tripped themselves.

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  • EvelynApril 27, 2013 - 4:33 am

    "Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at Salt Lake grocery store" - HERE

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 27, 2013 - 6:39 am

    troublemaker

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  • EvelynMay 31, 2013 - 3:05 pm

    "On June 3, President Barack Obama will sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty (ATT)" - HERE

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  • EvelynMay 31, 2013 - 3:12 pm

    "California lawmakers OK a dozen gun-control measures" - HERE ********** This LA Times article includes this poll question: "Should Jerry Brown sign these gun control measures?" I voted to see the vote tally. YES = 583 votes. NO = 16,999 votes. Interesting. Not even in "redneck" El Dorado County!

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  • EvelynMay 31, 2013 - 3:13 pm

    V O T E

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  • DB SmithMay 31, 2013 - 3:16 pm

    17,000 NO votes now Evelyn.

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  • EvelynMay 31, 2013 - 3:43 pm

    Now at 17,422, and it's impossible to vote twice.

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  • EvelynMay 31, 2013 - 3:45 pm

    The U.S. Army just drove down my street. I didn't do it, honest!

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  • EvelynMay 31, 2013 - 3:47 pm

    17,453. V O T E

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